Monday, January 9, 2017

Obstacles to Teaching in SCA Rapier

Teaching sucks.

From elementary school through high school, most people are taught to be receptacles for wisdom from on high. This is an effective approach for mathematical and scientific concepts. In the maths and the sciences, there are Correct and Incorrect answers. Such luxuries, these things are.

I sat on this post for a while after writing it, because I am not a super-experienced teacher and in this post I disagree with many things that we do in the Society. However, it is only through being wrong over and over again that I will eventually come to correct beliefs. So fuck it, let's proceed with this post.

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Our Art is a difficult one. There are multiple, incompatible influences competing for attention. For a beginner, it is Far Too Much to process. There is no "one way" to fence, and this makes life extremely difficult. No wonder the Black Tigers have found so much success in our Art - they provide a direct path to improve, and then provide an empirical-ish path for advancement beyond amateur level.

For the rest of us, there is not really a direct path for advancement. There are, however, several recurring shapes of education. I recount them here, from "best" to "worst".
  • Direct Dependent
    • This is what happens when a teacher takes a cadet. They gain a single source of truth, which is super useful. This can be anti-useful when a teacher's experiences significantly differ from the student's in subtle ways, such as having and being unaware of differences in physical limitations.
  • Study Group
    • A group of people, with no real hierarchy to themselves, gather and talk swords. Sometimes there are people who are more experienced or louder, and minor hierarchy forms, but in general everybody learns from each other at least to some degree. This is only useful in smaller groups, so everybody can work with each other and learn from each other. This breaks down if someone is both loud and disagrees with most other people in the group.
  • Class
    • One teacher, many students. Generally, the teacher and students both assume that the teacher is saying things which are capital-t True. If this assumption breaks down, the class bogs down in "but what if..." discussions. The education must be structured in a way that makes sense. Inevitably, this means that some things will be left out, or at least left until the future. This has many of the same problems as Direct Dependent relationships, except on a larger scale.
  • Self-Directed Learning
    • This is the default learning strategy, and happens to be my favorite. In order to gain anything at all from it, the individual must have a strong sense of meta-knowledge. That is to say, they must have strategies to determine if the things they learn are actually true. Every theory must be obsessively tested. This strategy has the greatest likelihood of leading into folly and incorrectness.
  • Drive-By Teaching
    • This is what happens after someone asks, "did you notice anything in that set of passes?", and then their opponent answers that they did. This is the lowest form of teaching, with the worst signal-to-noise ratio. It is also the most common form of teaching for new fencers, in our organization.
All of these methods of teaching have advantages and disadvantages. In particular, only study groups and self-directed learning encourage people to establish meta-knowledge. At the same time, classes, study groups, and direct dependent relationships allow a consistent thread of teaching. This is super useful. 

Using the Black Tigers as an example again, they do a number of effective things to imbue people with knowledge quickly.
  1. They set people up with a mentor, who will watch video of the student and give advice. (Direct Dependent)
  2. At larger events, they meet up and work together. (Study Group)
  3. The bigger-name Tigers teach at larger events. (Classes)
  4. They have a ranking system, which rewards better tournament-performance. (A specific meta-knowledge strategy.)
  5. They apparently have manuals for teaching about how to fight. (Theoretical basis for techniques, individual techniques)
I disagree with many parts of how the Tigers, as a loose organization, do things. But they are way, way better than the currently-existing nothing, for going from a novice to an effective fencer.

Part of the reason I've been thinking about them has been another, looser collection of "fencing school" I've come into contact with recently. The way of fighting used by the Super Ansteorran Murder Brothers. This has many of the same elements of the Black Tigers, even down to having a similar, blade-low and dagger-forward stance. As far as I can tell, they don't really have a meta-knowledge strategy or any teaching materials other than word-of-mouth and video, but the rest is relatively similar.

It's interesting. It's a vast departure from where I originally intended this post to go, but it's interesting and bears keeping-in-mind for future analysis.

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The thing I wanted to write about, here, was why drive-by teaching is so terrible.

For learning, there are three kinds of knowledge.
  1. Knowledge of what to do (techniques)
  2. Knowledge of underlying theories (theories)
  3. Knowledge of how to discern if the above things are correct (meta-knowledge)
Generally, the first and second types of knowledge can be learned from other people. But the third kind of knowledge is even more of a foundation than the first two types, and tends to be something that people don't even know to learn. It's not truly necessary to learn it in order to fence well, but if you don't have it then you can't perform your own research and generate your own knowledge of the first and second types.

As well, it makes it harder for you to confirm the correctness of your own learning.

Drive-by teaching tends to only teach knowledge of the first type, and perhaps the second type. Knowledge of the third type is hard to nurture, but it's what allows fencers to improve themselves. However, if all of the people giving drive-by teaching know it for the same style, then they can give consistent feedback between teachers, and it can become useful again.

So, it would behoove us to have a specific style that everybody knows and can give feedback about. Then, when a student gains a certain, hard-to-define degree of competence, teachers can state that they will now give their own personal advice, rather than what Capoferro would want for them to give.

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My takeaways from writing this are as follows:

  • We need a consistent teaching program, so that multiple teachers can give congruent feedback.
  • I, as a teacher, want to focus on teaching students how to learn, going forward.
  • Some day, I want to found a fencing school within the SCA. It sounds like a fun idea.
Anyhow. Feel free to comment how I'm Wrong and Bad below. 

11 comments:

  1. This is fantastic, and I agree with almost everything there. Unfortunately, I'm at a loss for how to improve the current state of affairs. We should talk about this in person some time, as the words are failing to transfer from brain to keyboard.

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    1. The way to fix this would be to make sure that EVERYBODY who wants to teach rapier in the East Kingdom knows one specific, kingdom-wide historical style. And, when teaching, they teach to that style unless someone is decently experienced.

      There are two ways one could determine that experience. Either as a "okay, you have your AoA, this obviously means you're experienced enough" or a less specific "feeling" of how experienced a person is.

      The problem with the former is when people come to rapier later in their SCA experience, which would be countered by the fact that generally people would know them, and know that they are coming to rapier later.

      The problem with the latter would be people who have natural physical ability, and thus appear better than they actually are. So it would be easily possible for them to, completely by accident, skip over the end parts of their training.

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    2. Birka beer topic?

      Also, random thought: I can probably teach a class on "this is how brains best learn, and here are ways to structure classes/lessons/drills to utilize that science."

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  2. Behold, my Very Rambly Response:

    You are wrong and bad! :D

    Ahem. Sorry.

    More seriously though, you're on point with a lot of things. The Generic SCA Practice Model doesn't typically do much to really impart any knowledge in a structured way, let alone actually build basics and foundations in a way that will serve the fencer long term. Frankly, it kind of screws them.

    On the student side:
    Part of that, granted, is because for a lot of people they just want to show up and play with swords. Maybe they have some sort of vague "...and then I will get good at it!" idea, but no real plan other than "show up to practice once a week and spar, kinda." Then they will go to events and fence people and have fun! And hey, that's okay if that's what the person in question wants, and has a realistic expectation of where that'll get them. We're here to have fun, that's what's fun for them, and okay.

    Moving on from that person though, let's look at the person who wants to Get Good, Somehow. They're willing to do some work on their own, and probably understand that they need to build some fundamentals before they get to the "fun" stuff or the "interesting" things, or even "before they will get to really hit lots and lots of people successfully." Awesome!

    This brings us to the teacher side... and then, as you say, we don't have any kind of structure to support that second student. There are a number of reasons behind this. Some are super reasonable, though. In no particular order:

    - There are usually semi-formal hierarchies at practice, which may or may not actually mesh with any other hierarchies in place. For instance, the person who is seen as "in charge" at a practice may not hold any kind of rank in the SCA. They may not have any particular skill at fencing. They may not have any particular skill at teaching. That's like, three or for axes that a hierarchy is on, so having something form organically at a practice can be hard.

    - Everyone is at a practice for themselves as well as other people. This is super reasonable! As an experienced fencer, I want to fence and drill and practice and learn just as much as the new person.

    - Lots of times, the people who are willing to teach may not have any real skill at fencing, let alone any skill *at teaching*.

    - We don't focus on teaching people how to teach, or learning how people learn skills.


    Back in the day, Carolingia had a Standard New Person Rapier Curriculum which worked pretty well for new folks. Regular classes ran at practice, a standard knowledge set emerged, and it ended up pretty okay. Part of what made it work was that it was *so* basic that even people of some differing ability could get up to speed on it enough to at least guide people through it somewhat consistently. Also, it was designed around the start of college semesters (we had a much larger college crowd back then) so everyone started at the same time and progressed along.

    You and I disagree pretty often on what's good and fun for us to do to learn, or how to teach, or how to sword, but I think that we generally agree on core things like "this is what science says about how people best learn physical things" and also "I want to lead more people towards becoming more awesome at sword" so clearly the answer is "let's get together at Birka over beers and do something about this."

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    1. Agreed!

      Just as one stray point I want to say before I forget it - I think that the Magic of Modern Video could help with the "everyone is at practice for themselves as well as other people" problem.

      That problem is my own personal biggest obstacle, because if I am not already friends with a person, then teaching them seems like a huge friggin' hassle. But by using video, it would be possible to provide feedback which doesn't cut into training time.

      And yes. I deeply appreciate how often you and I disagree, and respect your opinions. As well, I appreciate that you, despite thinking that I'm wrong, at least respect my opinions.

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  3. Learning a particular set of skills, particularly in a progression, also gives a way to track ones own progress that is better than "I beat these people X percent of the time" or "I finish in X place in tournements", which have too many factors involved to be great measures of progress. The ability to say "I am managing to apply X skill/move in Y situation (drill, bout, etc)" can be helpful, particularly when skills build on one another.

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    1. Yeeeeeeees, applying reasonable milestones is 100000% better than tournament progression for measuring progress in any kind of useful way.

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    2. I very much agree. I didn't want to digress into why I disagree with the BT methodology, but that's my biggest area of disagreement.

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    3. I like tournament progression as a way to self-evaluate, but it's definitely a terrible way to determine anything objective.

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